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		<title>The Death of Business</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!  It's the "death of" business! Here are some recent articles where I have noticed this "dying" trend:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.marketingroiordie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dangerous-alone-take-this.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-773" title="dangerous alone take this" src="http://www.marketingroiordie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/dangerous-alone-take-this.jpg" alt="" width="156" height="147" /></a> The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!  It&#8217;s the &#8220;death of&#8221; business! Here are some recent articles where I have noticed this &#8220;dying&#8221; trend:</p>
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<p><a title="The Death Of CPM, The Birth Of CRM Media Planning" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=129530" target="_blank">The Death Of CPM</a> , <a title="The Death Of The Retail Store" href="http://www.robertbcairns.com/2010/06/death-of-retail-store/" target="_blank">The Death Of The Retail Store</a> , <a title="The Death of Affiliate Marketing" href="http://www.perrymarshall.com/3120/death-of-affiliate-marketing/" target="_blank">The Death of Affiliate Marketing</a> , <a title="The Death of the Open Web" href="http://www.lisnews.org/death_open_web" target="_blank">The Death of the Open Web</a> , <a title="the Death of Video Rental Stores" href="http://marketwi.se/2010/06/redbox-netflix-and-the-death-of-video-rental-stores/" target="_blank">The Death of Video Rental Stores</a> , <a title="The death of the landline" href="http://www.business-opportunities.biz/2010/05/22/the-slow-death-of-the-landline/" target="_blank">The Death of the Landline</a> , <a title="The Death of the Book" href="http://locusclassicus.livejournal.com/38233.html" target="_blank">The Death of the Book</a> , <a title="the death of the desktop" href="http://ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Marcel-Gagne-Orbiting-Planet-buntu/The-Death-of-the-Desktop-a-video-panel-discussion" target="_blank">The Death of the Desktop</a> , <a title="the death of newspapers" href="http://www.clintreilly.com/the-death-of-newspapers/" target="_blank">The Death of Newspapers</a> , <a title="the death of the press release" href="http://www.artsjournal.com/sandow/2010/05/the_death_of_press_releases.html" target="_blank">The Death of the Press Release</a> , <a title="the death of advertising" href="http://www.allbusiness.com/marketing-advertising/advertising/480549-1.html" target="_blank">The Death of Advertising</a> , <a title="the death of the pageview" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/start/2010/03/the-death-of-the-pageview.php" target="_blank">The Death of the Pageview</a></p>
<p>What&#8217;s going on here?  More importantly <span style="text-decoration: underline;">what can we learn from it</span>? After studying these articles I have come to the conclusion that no, business isn&#8217;t dying&#8230;but it is evolving.  <em>We&#8217;re</em> evolving; as consumers and as marketers.</p>
<p>As consumers, we want to be marketed to as the individuals we are. &#8220;Technology is fueling the consumer&#8217;s desire for personalization.1&#8243;  As marketers, we are seeing that treating people as &#8216;the masses&#8217; is no longer appropriate.  It&#8217;s no longer about measuring our audience <em>size</em> but about how <em>relevant</em> we are to our audience1. We must become more sophisticated in our targeting efforts.  One-to-one marketing is the key now, whether we are talking to other businesses or to consumers.</p>
<p>In <a title="One-to-One Marketing: The true promise of Dynamic Offer-Content Customization" href="http://www.marketingexperiments.com/blog/analytics-testing/one-to-one.html" target="_blank">One-to-One Marketing: The true promise of Dynamic Offer-Content Customization</a> it states: &#8220;Customizing offers based on customer segments involves a  sequence of  steps, beginning with identification of meaningful customer segments. Any method of customer-specific message optimization requires   knowing &#8216;who&#8217; your customers are, beyond just their names and email   addresses. You must also have some insight into what they &#8216;want,&#8217; how  they  think, the words, terms and images that attract and inspire them  (as well as  those that repel them), and &#8216;how&#8217; they think.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are two ways I know of to develop customer segments.  One involves analyzing the people who come to your website, or who you want to come to your website, and developing it around their needs.  In<a title="Online Customer Segmentation Made Easy" href="http://www.thecompleteinternetmarketer.com/articles/article_onlinecustomersegmentationmadeeasy.html" target="_blank"> Online Customer Segmentation Made Easy</a> it says &#8220;the easiest approach is to ask the five basic questions that all news reporters know:  Who, What, Where, Why and How. By taking time to answer these five questions up front, you will be able to make the most effective use of limited resources, as you build a website that meets the needs and wants of all your customers.&#8221;  While creating segments based on online behavior may yield actionable insights for your website, it also doesn&#8217;t truly represent your customer base if you sell in other ways, such as direct and retail.</p>
<p>In that case, there is another method that involves surveying your customers.  The company I work with, <a title="C.A. Walker Research Solutions" href="http://www.cawalker.com" target="_blank">C.A. Walker</a>, does this type of segmentation analysis.  We design a questionnaire that allows us to group customers as similar or dissimilar based on their attitudes, behaviors and demographics, yielding those segments that are most valuable to target.  Segmentations are a valuable look into customer groups&#8217; beliefs,  lifestyles and habits.</p>
<p>Another point I picked up from these articles is to not be afraid to launch evolutionary products and services, even if a larger company could launch a competitive product/service with greater advantages.  Far too often &#8220;industry leaders are usually so focused on maintaining existing profit centers and business practices&#8230;they ignore the threat.&#8221;4</p>
<p>Lastly, measures of marketing ROI are evolving also.  In <a title="the death of the pageview" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/start/2010/03/the-death-of-the-pageview.php" target="_blank">The Death of the Pageview</a> it makes a great point: &#8220;The most important thing is that you are gathering <em>actionable</em> data. By this I mean that you have to be able to use the information you  gather to make a decision and take <em>action</em>.  If you&#8217;re not going to use it to make a decision, it&#8217;s a waste of time  to even look at it.&#8221; Consolidating what these articles are saying, the important ROI metrics to gather and take action on are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cost Per Customer (CPC)1</li>
<li><a title="How to Calculate and Increase Lifetime Customer Value" href="http://www.marketingroiordie.com/2009/11/08/how-to-calculate-and-increase-lifetime-customer-value/" target="_self">Customer Lifetime Value (LTV</a>)1 (links to my prior post on how to calculate and increase Lifetime Value)</li>
<li>Value delivered &#8212; e.g. customers or inquiries1,  less stress2, saves time2, original products3</li>
<li>Average Revenue Per User (ARPU)5</li>
</ul>
<p>In summary, it is my belief that businesses don&#8217;t truly die; they simply evolve and may become a stepping stone into something more relevant to people&#8217;s lives.  Marketers must become savvier in order to evolve with these trends and must monitor only those marketing metrics that can assist to improve conversion rates and gain a deeper understanding of  customer behavior.</p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<p>1 <a title="The Death Of CPM, The Birth Of CRM Media Planning" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=129530" target="_blank">The Death Of CPM</a></p>
<p>2 <a title="The Death Of The Retail Store" href="http://www.robertbcairns.com/2010/06/death-of-retail-store/" target="_blank">The Death Of The Retail Store</a></p>
<p>3 <a title="The Death of Affiliate Marketing" href="http://www.perrymarshall.com/3120/death-of-affiliate-marketing/" target="_blank">The Death of Affiliate Marketing</a></p>
<p>4 <a title="the Death of Video Rental Stores" href="http://marketwi.se/2010/06/redbox-netflix-and-the-death-of-video-rental-stores/" target="_blank">The Death of Video Rental Stores</a></p>
<p>5 <a title="the death of the pageview" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/start/2010/03/the-death-of-the-pageview.php" target="_blank">The Death of the Pageview</a></p>
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		<title>Evaluating the ROI of Your Online Friends</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read an article today that quoted Avinash Kaushik, author of the blog Occam’s Razor, who quipped, "Social media is like teen sex.  Everyone wants to do it. No one actually knows how. When finally done, there is surprise it's not better." ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-123" title="measuring_back" src="http://www.marketingroiordie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/measuring_back-227x300.jpg" alt="measuring_back" width="109" height="144" />I read an article today that quoted Avinash Kaushik, author of the blog <a title="Avinash Kaushik Occam's Razor" href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/" target="_blank">Occam’s Razo</a>r, who quipped, &#8220;Social media is like teen sex.  Everyone wants to do it. No one actually knows how. When finally done, there is surprise it&#8217;s not better.&#8221;  According to <a title="MarketingProfs Social Media's Primary Use is Marketing" href="http://www.marketingprofs.com/charts/2009/161/social-medias-primary-use-marketing" target="_blank">MarketingProfs</a>, slightly more than half (55%) of all businesses are trying to do it, and most (79%) aren&#8217;t yet trying to evaluate the ROI of their efforts, with 41% not knowing if it even  CAN be done. Having read many articles lately on the topic of evaluating the ROI of social media efforts, I want to distill the information down to a list of metrics that can be used.</p>
<p><span id="more-111"></span>One good way of arriving at  social media metrics is postulated by Heidi Sullivan of <a title="Cision Blog Five Senses of Online Measurement" href="http://blog.us.cision.com/2009/09/the-five-senses-of-online-measurement/" target="_blank">Cision Blog</a>: &#8220;There are two basic types of ways to measure your impact on the Web: passive and active.&#8221; Furthermore, she attempts to break it down into the five senses: sight (where are you seen), sound (who&#8217;s talking about you), scent (do they stick around to &#8220;smell what you&#8217;re cooking&#8221;), taste (can they taste what you&#8217;re offering through search engines) and touch (are they taking the next step to touch others with your information).</p>
<p>Going back to the passive vs. active concept, here are metrics she suggests as well as from other sources (numbers refer to sources at bottom):</p>
<p>Passive</p>
<ul>
<li>Number of unique visitors to your blog.1</li>
<li>Monthly site views aka page views.1 &#8211; <a title="Definition page views" href="http://www.marketingterms.com/dictionary/page_view/" target="_blank">Definition</a>: Request to load a single HTML page.  Page views are only important to the degree they play a part in a site&#8217;s  revenue model. If a site earns much of its revenue from advertising, then  page views are important because of their contribution to ad inventory. If a site only earns revenue on sales, then page views  are not a key statistic.</li>
<li>Number of page views per visit.6 &#8211; Try landing people on an engaging page that funnels them through a messaging sequence that builds your brand and escalates sales. Measure the results and optimize the path that gets people to the end of the sequence. Also, measure the lift in total page views of your site&#8217;s high-value product pages.</li>
<li>Monthly unique sessions.1 &#8211; <a title="Definiton unique monthly sessions" href="http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci541663,00.html" target="_blank">Definition</a>: In tabulating statistics for Web site usage, a user session (sometime referred to as a <em>visit</em>) is the presence of a user with a specific IP  address who has not visited the site recently (typically, anytime within the past 30 minutes). The number of user sessions per day is one measure of how much traffic a Web site has. A user who visits a site at noon and then again at 3:30 pm would count as two user visits.</li>
<li>Number of return visits.6</li>
<li>Search trends.7</li>
</ul>
<p>Active</p>
<ul>
<li>Number of influencers (track who they are for targeting) that share your content through inbound links, citations, tweets, viral videos or other forwarding of information that result in transactions.1,4,6 &#8211; put a call to action in your campaign that will lift this metric.</li>
<li>Number of company/brand mentions <span>in blogs, on Facebook, MySpace or Twitter</span>, as gauged by a social media monitoring solution<span>, especially when supplemented with sophisticated sentiment analysis that discerns positive brand mentions from the negative. </span>1,7<span> </span></li>
<li>Number of people clicking on your images, watching your videos, using your widgets, and spending significant amounts of time on your site.1 &#8211; <span>by tagging videos and applications, companies can track each occurrence of sharing and estimates frequency of exposure to particular media.6</span></li>
<li>Number of and which keywords/other sites  referring visitors to your content.1</li>
<li>How much money social media has saved or created for your brand: How many issues that you solved, questions that you answered, leads that you created, products that you sold, call volume that you decreased, etc., through social media engagement versus traditional resources.2</li>
<li><span>Time spent across an entire campaign.3</span></li>
<li><span>Click rate [on an ad].3 &#8211; not the best metric to use.  People can accidentally click and then drop off, or they can click and see it&#8217;s not for them and drop off.</span></li>
<li><span>Interaction rates [with an ad].3 &#8211; may be influenced by the creative and not a true representation of their interest.</span></li>
<li><span>Conversion rates &#8211; doesn&#8217;t take into account return conversions or other offline results, e.g. visit to a store for further research.</span></li>
<li>Time spent throughout cross channel engagement with the brand &#8211; forecast the number of touches a customer can have with a brand and the resultant amount of time spent with the brand, e.g. total number of exposures, visits you&#8217;ll drive to the site, increase in total mentions that can be measured with social media monitoring tools.3
<ul>
<li><span>Once you understand the total touches, you can either measure directly or assume through general patterns what the time spent is across each of these vehicles, and then create a cumulative time spent for the campaign. </span><span>When you break down the individual media vehicles, time spent is actually quite easy to report on.3</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Lifetime value of customers based on their purchasing activity, which could be higher depending on their level of social media influence, e.g. if a customer is worth $9 dollars alone, but that person has 500 Facebook friends, and is able to drive even 1% of them (5) to make a purchase, that individual&#8217;s value could be as high as $54 dollars.4</li>
<li>Number of people who you capture data from &#8211; Eyeblaster has found that <span>the ability to capture data within a banner is nearly eight times more effective at addressing conversions than click-through rates (CTR), revealing that consumers are more likely to fill in a banner than click on it.5 </span></li>
<li><span>Number of people who opt into your e-newsletter/email updates (e-newsletter metrics to be discussed under separate, future posting).6<br />
</span></li>
<li><span>Number of people who download materials from your site.6</span></li>
<li><span>Number of phone calls you receive and source.6</span></li>
<li>Number of people that share comments and opinions.6</li>
<li><span>The impact individuals exert on wider audiences &#8211; a combination of data obtained from buzz-tracking with data from surveying (see below), to determine the probability of viewing buzz by taking into account the volume of relevant posts and amount of time spent by panelists on a website.7</span></li>
</ul>
<p>And there are also metrics that can only be obtained via surveying, which is what the company work with, <a title="C.A. Walker Research Solutions" href="http://www.cawalker.com/" target="_blank">C.A. Walker</a>, does:</p>
<ul>
<li><span>Awareness.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span>Interest.</span></li>
<li><span>Desire.</span></li>
<li><span>Lifts in brand awareness and attitudes attributable to a social media campaign.</span></li>
<li>Various actions taken throughout engagement with the brand.</li>
<li><span>Usage &#8211; may be of a particular website or of a product.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span>Consideration &#8211; may also be inferred from </span>measuring the things that drive people into your (or your client&#8217;s) stores.  Actions like store locator queries and rep searches should always be measured and are clear indicators that a future purchase may be imminent.6</li>
<li><span>Intent to purchase &#8211; may also be inferred from </span>Time spent throughout engagement with the brand. <span>If consumers spend more time than the average, they must be interested in your product or service &#8212; and if they are interested, that is a measure of intent.3</span></li>
</ul>
<p>If I&#8217;ve missed any applicable metrics, please let me know so I can grow this list.</p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<p>1<a title="Cision Blog Five Senses of Online Measurement" href="http://blog.us.cision.com/2009/09/the-five-senses-of-online-measurement/" target="_blank">Cision Blog</a>: Five Senses of Online Measurement</p>
<p>2<a title="Mashable Twitter brand best practices" href="http://mashable.com/2009/06/24/twitter-brand-best-practices/" target="_blank">Mashable</a>: Twitter Brand Best Practices</p>
<p>3<a title="MediaPost Time Spent Is The Right Metric To Measure Engagement" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=107265" target="_blank">MediaPost</a>: Time Spent Is The Right Metric To Measure Engagement</p>
<p>4<a title="MediaPost Marketers Search For Social Media Metric" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=105548" target="_blank">MediaPost</a>: Marketers Search For Social Media Metric</p>
<p>5<a title="EyeBlaster Conversions Remain Important Metric" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=102232" target="_blank">Eyeblaster</a>: <span style="text-decoration: none;">Conversions Remain Important Metric</span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: none;">6<a title="ClickZ  11 Things to Measure Besides Clicks and Conversions" href="http://www.clickz.com/3634716" target="_blank">ClickZ</a>: </span>11 Things to Measure Besides Clicks and Conversions</p>
<p>7<a title="MediaPost: Media Metrics: Let's Get This Party Started" href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=109704#comments" target="_blank">MediaPost</a>: <span style="text-decoration: none;">Media Metrics: Let&#8217;s Get This Party Started</span></p>
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		<title>Tracking Return Conversions</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a white paper recently geared to online marketers from the company FetchBack, a retargeting company.  In a nutshell, they state that online marketers often track the metric "conversions," which can be different for each marketer depending on their business, for their website and from specific campaigns.  What people often fail to take into consideration, however, is what percentage of conversions are from people who absorb information and then come back later to purchase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-102" title="stalking_shirt" src="http://www.marketingroiordie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/stalking_shirt.jpg" alt="stalking_shirt" width="172" height="173" />I read a <a title="Fetchback Return Conversions" href="http://www.fetchback.com/whitepaper.html" target="_blank">white paper</a> recently geared to online marketers from the company <a title="Fetchback" href="http://fetchback.com/" target="_blank">FetchBack</a>, a retargeting company.  In a nutshell, they state that online marketers often track the metric &#8220;conversions,&#8221; which can be different for each marketer depending on their business, for their website and from specific campaigns.  What people often fail to take into consideration, however, is what percentage of conversions are from people who absorb information and then come back later to purchase.</p>
<p><span id="more-101"></span>Why is this important?  Because it&#8217;s so expensive to find a new potential customer that it is of value to invest in retargeting that customer who now knows about you.  Of course, the company offers a solution to this problem which is to somehow tag that person and no matter where they go online, they will show your ad to them.  Pretty nifty for a marketer.</p>
<p>As a strategist, I like to see what companies are doing in one area of business and think through how I might apply it to another area of business.  It&#8217;s good mind exercise.  I have a friend who is considering taking over a hair salon and running it, so while they could use this for their online marketing, how could this work in a real-life scenario?</p>
<p>Say that she successfully takes control of this business, and decides to throw an &#8220;<a title="How to throw a successful open house at your business" href="http://brandandmarket.com/how-to-throw-a-successful-open-house-at-your-business-to-help-market-your-companys-services/" target="_blank">open house</a>&#8221; to invite as many people as she can to visit.  Some are current customers, some are their friends, and some are other people that she meets or who see her ad/press release.  She could have a sign-in book which requests name, phone and email.  After the event, she then has to sort through to categorize them as either current or potential clients.  Now, how to retarget?</p>
<p>Some ideas:</p>
<ul>
<li>See if they are on LinkedIn, Facebook or Myspace and connect to them, thanking them for attending and offer an incentive to schedule an appointment.  A larger incentive within the next 30 days, a smaller one for the next 60 days, another smaller still for next 90 days.</li>
<li>If, after 30 days, they do not take her up on the offer remind them again of the smaller incentive for the next 30 days.  Same for 60 days.</li>
<li>If, after 90 days, she still has not received a response, follow up again with another offer, say  a free haircut if they refer 2 friends who make appointments or a free haircut and color if they refer 5 friends who make appointments.</li>
<li>Send them an email asking if she can add them to an email update list that shares specials, or possibly an e-newsletter, no more than once a month.</li>
<li>For those she connects with on social media, she could send them a note saying that she&#8217;d like to offer THEIR friends a &#8220;2nd degree discount,&#8221; meaning that if they forward her offer to all their friends, the friends will will receive a discount on a service within 30, 60 and 90 days plus get a free [trial sized bottle of a hair product or whatever].  They just have to connect with her via one of the social sites (give the profile address) and provide the name of the person referring, which can be verified through their friend listing on their profile, unless they have hidden this view.</li>
<li>Those new first degree friends can then be provided the same opportunities as the previous.</li>
</ul>
<p>Of course, it is important for her to track metrics for her business that would be applicable:</p>
<ul>
<li> Number of customers who have made second appointments.</li>
<li>Number of customers who did not make second appointments.</li>
<li>Number of return conversions (those who did not initially make appointments, but later returned and did).</li>
<li>Number of customers who have been customers longer than one year.</li>
<li>Number of customers who have referred someone else.</li>
<li>Number of customers who purchased hair products but did not make appointments.</li>
<li>And so on</li>
</ul>
<p>Does anyone have any other thoughts on how she could &#8220;follow&#8221; a potential customer around to retarget?</p>
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